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A Theory

Have you had your morning dose of baseless speculation? No? Well reader (and amateur gumshoe) Josh has a somewhat compelling theory about what may have (allegedly) pushed Christopher Monfort over the edge:

Christopher Monfort, the person shot by police earlier today and [is allegedly] suspected of the killing of Seattle Police Officer Tim Brenton on Halloween, had two traffic infractions on his state record, and that’s it. I did a quick lookup at the Washington Courts site, and found that those two infractions were from 9/14/2007 and 3/11/2009. What that site doesn’t show is that on 10/16/2009, Monfort was cited in Seattle for driving without insurance. I got that from the Municipal Court of Seattle’s site.

“Monfort may have been recently laid off from a job as a security guard or private investigator, a Seattle police source familiar with the investigation said.”

Aside from being a $550 fine, that charge on the 16th would have been his third inside just over two years. I don’t know where he worked or what the terms of his employment were, but I’ve seen job listings for which you couldn’t have three or more traffic violations within the past three years. If his job had such a requirement, that Seattle ticket would have been the reason he was laid off.

The court mailed him his hearing notice on the 28th. It probably would have reached him on the 30th or 31st. If he’d been stewing for a while, that could have set him off. If he’s not the guy, then that all doesn’t mean anything. But if he is, it sounds like as good an explanation as any for what happened.

Incidentally, the suspect profile the SPD released on the 5th said, “We do believe that although he shot a police officer, he may in fact admire them and even act like them.”

Fell free to shred/elaborate on Josh's theory in the comments. SPD is holding a press conference sometime today Hopefully they'll offer up some insight into this horrible tragedy.

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who dunnit?
It is an interesting theory- people have "snapped" under seemingly less. What is fascinating to me though, is how many people have said they don't think this is the killer- that is amazing to me. I don't think we know one way or the other, and the argument could be made either way- at present, anyway. But for people to read the articles and look at his picture and learn he went to UW to then decide beyond a shadow of doubt in their minds that he is not the guy- like killers can't be clean cut or educated. I have to shake my head about that. Someone asked me if I really thought -based on pictures and minimal facts- he was the "typical killer"... are killers typical?
Comment by SV
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
Theory
That is compelling - I wonder if Timothy Brenton or Britt Sweeney issued the ticket for no issurance to Monfort??
Comment by Wendy
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
You're good
Josh, you're are right - case # 202839058 filed on October 16, 2009 for driving with no motor vehicle insurance - $550 - birthdate is 9/13/68 - why didn't reporters find this??
Comment by Wendy
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
yes and i dont know
Know who else went to UW? Ted Bundy. Going to a good school doesn't automatically equal sanity.
The suspect sounds like a pretty clever guy. He did some volunteer work, but so did John Wayne Gacey. I'm with you, SV, he does sound like a put together guy who snapped, but we can't assume innocence based on his past.

As for the summons being the catalyst, police believe he's involved in the fire bombing of police vehicles on Oct 22nd. After the traffic infraction yes, but before he received the hearing notice. And would an employer find out about drving infractions in less than 5 days? That's a great catch, but I think it was more than his 3rd traffic ticket that set the ball in motion.
Comment by regina
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Interesting
According to the reports that I've read they've linked the shooting to the arson a few weeks ago. The arson was committed on October 22nd so it would still fit if he was set off by the ticket being issued on the 16th and then the hearing notice caused him to increase his violence.

However, if he received a hearing notice, he requested that right? I'm not an expert and I've only gotten parking tickets but I remember that they give you the option to pay the fine or request a hearing. If he requested the hearing, why would that be the thing that causes him to kill people?

One other question, why would he get cited for driving without insurance? Was he was pulled over for something else and that was all they could cite him for? The report in the Times quotes a family friend saying that he was sensitive to being racially profiled, maybe he felt that that had happened in this instance.
Comment by Anna
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Interesting
Anna, good point - you don't just get pulled over for no insurance, I too wonder why he was initially pulled over to begin with.
Comment by Wendy
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Ticket on 10/16 also explains arson of SPD vehicles on 10/22
for which he is the #1 suspect.
Comment by Peggy Sioux
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
I am [allegedly] suspected of writing this.
"today and [is allegedly] suspected of the killing of Seattle Police Officer"

don't we factually know that he is a suspect? Police have called him s suspect, right? Why all the redundant "alleged" layers? If I was Tom Leykis I would call you a pussy. Pussy.

JR "B" D.
Comment by JR "B" D.
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
Nice finds.
Some one said here that his family thought he being racially profiled. Um NO. He had a similar vehicle, of that which was caought on video footage. Never before did they put a picture and say we are looking for this "supposedly" mixed race older man. They recieved a tip there was a similar car at these apaertments that someone was moving constantly, and keeping it covered. Enforcement officers watched the covered vehicle until they say it once uncovered as he moved it and recovered. SUSPCIOUS? I would think so. That was why he bacame a person of interest. Also, when the police ask to talk to you and you run, you brandish a fire arm when cornered and act aggressive. Yes, that is very suspicious behavior to. this "person of interest" mad him self stick out and become even more interesting to police by his own actions. So race was definitely not a factor in this case.

I do agree with another writer who posted, "are killers typical"? No, nothing has proven that you can look at a person and see what they are about. Killers, rapists, abusers. They all walk amoung us everyday. Theres people you look at as being odd that may be the nicest person around and have nothing wrong with them, yet they are disassociated wih society because we look at them as odd. And there are people that look totally normal that have all kinds of screws loose, but we accept them on thier appearance. So of course there is no typical profile for a killer except for the fact that something happened in thier head that none of us know about and they killed someone.

If this man is truely was the asassin of officer Brenton, then I as one for the community am glad that he was found. Justice will be served one way or another. If it is not, then I feel bad that he put him self in the possision he did. There was never a need for him to withdraw a firearm from his person. Whom ever the killer is justice will beserved.

I as a prior Army soldier, I pray everyday for the safety of ALL peace enforcement personnel. I hope that this life long tradgedy will not stop officer Sweeney as her actions were remarkable in thus sistuation. My best to all Seattle police officers, and may my prayers fall on the shoulders of Timothy Brentons family. God bless.
Comment by Don
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Nice finds.
I mentioned racial profiling in my comments but I wasn't referring to the murder investigatio, I was referring to the traffic atop and citation. If we was pulled over for what boils down to driving while black and cited for no insurance I could see how that would set him off. We don't know the circumstance of the traffic stop so it's all speculation of couse.
Comment by Anna
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Totality of the Circumstances
To me, if you look at his overall history: anti-establishmentism (his college project: "The Power of Citizenship your Government doesn't want You to know about. How to change the inequity of the Criminal Justice System immediately, through Active Citizen Nullification of Laws, as a Juror")/Paul Butler fascination, the ACLU volunteering, criticizing the previous presidency (OK, we all did that), CJ studies, statements made about wanting to become a cop [maybe he even tested and failed] (and later a lawyer), the seemingly over-concern about being racially-profiled (he looks light-skinned with caucasion features to me), driving of an old police car, patrol car arsons, notes about the King County deputy assaulting the girl, the bomb-making material and weapons cache found at his house, etc, etc... I find it easy to belive he did this. It's similar that some arsons are started by firefighters or "fire buffs."
Comment by PC
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Totality of the Circumstances
just FYI, October 22nd is "all black day", a day of protest for police brutality. People wear all black clothing and may or may not attend events or protests that highlight solidarity against police brutality and mourning for victims of police brutality.
Comment by smt
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Really?
"the ACLU volunteering"
Really? Now standing up for personal freedoms & the constitution makes you a suspect...

Great...really great.
Comment by A
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
RE: Really?
Like I said, totality of the circumstances...
Comment by PC
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
RE: Really?
I think fictional Prez Andrew Sheppard put it best:

"Yes, I'm a card carrying member of the ACLU... the real question is, Bob, WHY AREN'T YOU?"
Comment by JulietteF
3 months ago
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it is amazing
It is amazing how you allow comments from Seattle liberals whining about "racial profiling", but you always censor and delete the comment that indisputably proves beyond all doubt that blacks (8% of Seattle) committed at least half of the murders in Seattle in 2008 and probably at least 80% of the murders in Seattle in 2009.

Shame on you for calling yourself a "journalist". You are not a journalist. You are a mere blogger who censors the truth.
Comment by amazing
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
RE: it is amazing
dear amazingly dense:
"probably" 80%? Cool 'facts' there, dude. Here's real facts: http://www.seattle.gov/police/crime/STATS.HTM
Homicide is DOWN by 29%, by the way - no matter how you slice eye, skin or hair color/age/gender.
Do you have a cite to share that's say, reliable - like Wiki or a book?
Stats can be made to support almost any assertion: The interwebs say that only 8% of blacks are involved in violent sexual crimes. i.e. Odds are, if you getting raped or sexually assaulted, the criminal is a white guy. This all of course, keeping in mind that crime stats only show us what crimes were caught AND doesn't attempt to clarify if race is based on 'one-drop' rule or 'blood quantum' rule AND disregards profiling (If police are only looking for a black guy, they are more likely to catch a black guy).
You want the REAL culprit in all those stats? The undeniable true profile of who we should lock up, of who commits crimes WAY out of proportion to their 'place' in the population? Men. Men commit crime unabashedly more than women. So castrate and lock em up, girls.
Comment by Map
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
I hope you get to pay it soon
I can only hope that the censor who keeps deleting the facts about black crime rates in Seattle while leaving up the speculations about "racial profiling" gets to pay the "random diversity tax" (violent attacks by non-whites) in some spectacularly horrible way very soon. Wake up to reality and stop censoring the facts.
Comment by random diversity tax
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
sick and tired of this
I am really disgusted at the frequency of heinous crimes being committed by angry black men in our city. Yes, white people are criminals too, but blacks commit crimes way out of proportion to their percentage of the population.

It's complicated, of course, but I think the primary "root cause" is the breakdown of the black family over the past few decades, with the result that the majority of black kids are being raised by either a single mother or by other relatives. Some of these kids turn out OK, but many do not.

I realize that Monfort is just a suspect at this point, but it is very likely that he did it.
Comment by calhoun
4 months ago
( --2 votes)
check it
http://centraldistrictnews.com/2009/11/07/spd-murder-is-a-ca
Comment by looky looky
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
mixed race?
Hey you racists, Calhoun and Random Div.Tax and Amazing (although in reality the odds of you being the same person is pretty high), I have a question. The guy appears to be mixed race to me. For the sake of argument, lets say he's half white/half black. You're saying only the black half of him caused this tragedy? Hitler and Ted Bundy must have had some black blood in them too. The guy who took Elizabeth Smart and they guy who took Jaycee Duggard must have also been secretly half black too. Timothy McVie must have been black too. I love being able to just blame it all on the blacks.

It makes it so much easier to justify your racist attitudes when you only look at certain statistics. Here's a stat i'd like you to look at closely. I think you're 100% fucked up. Good luck living your depressed, scared, racist little lives in fear. The color of a persons skin does not determine what kind of citizen they'll be.
Comment by bizzy b
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
RE: mixed race?
Seattle lefties/liberals are so predictable...even a whiff of criticism regarding behavior by blacks is enough to immediately bring out the "r word" (racist). It's really a knee-jerk response, devoid of any critical thinking or analysis.

Do you honestly think that the high crime rate among blacks in our country is not something to be concerned about? You can bring up as many examples of heinous crimes by whites as you want, but the indisputable fact is that blacks commit crimes way out of proportion to their percentage of the population.
Comment by kermit
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
RE: mixed race?
kermit, looky, et al:
I hear you, but you aren't citing facts. Explain please Auburn AL, where there's 200% more of the population that is black compared to Seattle, yet the violent crime rate is 331 (vs Seattle's 627)?
These aren't old numbers: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/documents/07tbl08.xls
Perhaps you'd like a larger city to compare? Athens, GA: 384 and 27% of the population is black. 3 times the blacks, half the crime of Seattle.
Not big enough to compare?? Fine. I give you:
New York City.
Whites make up 44% of the city, blacks make up 25%, hispanics and latinos make up 27% of NYC.
Crime rate? Wait for it...
614.
There are literally over 2 million blacks in NYC - essentially FOUR 'Seattles' made up of nothing but black people-
and NYC still has a lower crime rate than we do with our 75% white city.
Comment by Map
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
you deny reality
Nobody ever said whites didn't commit crimes, but blacks make up only 8% of Seattle but committed at least 50% of murders in Seattle in 2008 (proven earlier but censored) and probably at least 80% of the murders in Seattle in 2009.

Face facts. Nothing will ever be done to fix the problem if you don't face up to the facts. Hitler was 60 years ago and Ted Bundy was 30 years ago. Blacks are killing (mostly each other) in the hundreds in the USA every single day of the year.
Comment by Stop being an idiot
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
Whatever happened to Eric Holder?
I thought US Attorney General Eric Holder told us we were cowards for not having a courageous conversation about race.
Comment by what ever happened to Eric Hol
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
WTF
What in the world are you smoking? It isn't about race - the crime statistics have to do with socio-economic status - just like it has been throughout history. Poor whites are roughly as likely to commit crimes as poor blacks, but what is more important is that most poor people, white or black, are just like everyone else - law abiding citizens.
Comment by No denying reality
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
you are wrong
West Virginia is one of the poorest states in the USA but has one of the lower violent crime rates. It is also one of the whitest states.
Comment by you are wrong
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
RE: you are wrong
Stats are liquid, but here's some hard Facts: Seattle = total violent crime rate of 627 (crime rates are per 100,000) and 7.8% of the population identified as black at last count.

AK, MS and , yes, WV are indeed the poorest 3 states..., however, anyone trying to say 'whites make crime go down' or 'blacks make crime rates rise' might want to stop assuming and do the real dig. These figures from the FBI crime rates from 2007:
Mobile AL : 451 crime rate / 48% black
Hattiesburg, MS: 484 crime rate / 47% black
Jackson MS: 70% black, yet crime is a tame 861 compared to :

Charleston West Virginia? : 1132 crime rate. 80% whites.
Huntington WV? - 754 crime rate / 89% whites
Comment by Map
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Explains one thing
This could explain why the car lot fire targetted Seattle despite having a note about the King County sheriff's deputy brutality case. When that was first revealed I thought it was just because crazy people didn't bother to target the "right" agency but having a specific beef with SPD would make more sense.
Comment by Billy
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
cite real research, please, or it didn't happen
real research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_r
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dtdata.htm#demo
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/
To the 'yella' racists:
Let's talk apples to apples (cities of 250,000 or more): St Paul Minnesota, Milwaukie Wisc, Las Vegas Nevada, Boston Mass, and ANCHORAGE AK, all have much higher murder rates than seattle, and yet also have demographics showing so-called whites in the mass majority. Explain away now, please, how 'whites = lower crime rates', as in your sad west virginia example (WV btw has a low violent crime rate because a) very few people live there b) there are no urban metropolis centers and c) there's social and economic COHESIVENESS; the one thing proven to lower crime is getting a bunch of people in one area that sympathize /understand one another and have strong family ties (few people move in or out of WV, in case you haven't heard the joke about the low number of last names there), and this stat is true regardless of race.
Comment by Map
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Monfort is black? Black = all the divorce? Reeealy...
@calhoun:
there's a lot of (angry or not) black people who would laugh if they heard you describe that light-side-of-mulatto man as "black".
"He's more white than black, and you guys can keep him" -my friend Spence.
Though, only 68% of American white folks are TRULY white/european: most don't know that 30% of "whites" are actually mixed/black, DNAwise, whether you like it not = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_in_the_United_States#Multi
and "the breakdown of the black family"? Really? You know, Jamaica (85% black) has 60% less divorces we do. As does Mexico. How do you explain that?
And suggesting white families aren't choosing more and MORE divorce and out-of-wedlock child-rearing? Sad.
Comment by JulietteF
3 months ago
( --1 votes)
This will get censored again, but here is the evidence you asked for, "Map"
http://tinyurl.com/no5knk

From the article "List of 2008 homicides in Seattle" from the Seattle PI

selected from the list of the 28 Seattle homicides in 2008....

Allen Joplin, Jan. 4 -- black killed by black

De'Che Morrison, Jan. 10 -- black killed by black

Maurice "Moe" Allen Jr., Jan. 26 -- black killed by black

Degene Barecha, Jan. 30 -- black killed by black

Perry Henderson, Feb. 6 -- black killed by black

Stephan Dwaine Stewart, April 2 -- black killed by black

Eldora Earlycutt, July 4 -- black killed by black

James Paroline, July 10 -- white killed by black

Troy Peters, July 22 -- black killed by black

Pierre Lapoint, Aug. 5 -- black killed by black

Jane Kariuki, Oct. 16 -- woman of unknown race killed by black man named Christel D. Murphy

Quincy S. Coleman, Oct. 31 -- black killed by black

Edward McMichael, the "Tuba Man", Nov. 3 -- white killed by multiple blacks

Nathaniel Lee Thomas, Nov. 23 -- black killed by black

So by my count blacks (8% of Seattle) were the killers in at least half (that's at least 50%) of the murders in the Seattle area in 2008. At least five of the other murderers were latinos.

The numbers are actually worse for 2009 and approach the 85% mark.
Comment by Hi Map
3 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: This will get censored again, but here is the evidence you asked for, "Map"
Oh my.
That's not a cite (the pi? A dead newspaper?? REALLY?) that has any scientific/reasonable merit, of course, but let's take a look.
First; It's cute how you've upgraded to 85% now.
Second: There's still that much more damning demographic in your numbers: the high number of male criminals. Totally out of proportion to their population. WTF is up with that!
Next: You still haven't answered the questions above, or admitted that "WV = no crime because of the all the white folk" is total shit. Also, the states and cities with higher crime yet lower % of black folks? Explain away. *waiting*
Now, What about those sexual crimes, hmm? You can't just write off the stats and facts there, showing white guys commit 90% of violent sexual crime, and they fill the 'former sexual offender' lists, are always the serial killers that keep breeding in this corner of the continent...
But even with those stats, I don't for a second believe their skin color CAUSES the crime. Because that would be unreasonable. Might as well say video games cause violent crime (if that were true, there'd be no violent crime before the 1970's - hell, there'd be violent crime increase since if htat were true, yet there's currently a violent crime DECREASE of significant (40-50%) size)
Then: Your cite such as it is, still doesn't list any info about race - you added that on your own, so your cite shows/proves nothing.
A unreasonable argument cannot have any merit. It's not "evidence", it's your own personal poll, and it still leaves Corrolary -not - equalling - Causation.

I dare you to find a study, done by a US university or a US law enforcement agency using the scientific process - that says as fact that which you can only timidly imply.
Comment by Map
3 months ago
( 0 votes)
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