posted 11/02/09 04:44 PM | updated 11/02/09 04:44 PM
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The Call

Much has been already said about Officer Britt Sweeney's quick, decisive, and brave response in the moments after a gunman opened fire on Sweeney and her partner Timothy Brenton in a drive-by shooting Leschi Saturday night.

Police say Brenton was killed instantly, and although Sweeney—who has only been with the department for six months—was wounded in the shooting, police say she was still able to scramble out of her patrol car and return fire at the other vehicle. Chief John Diaz described Sweeney's actions as that of "a tenured veteran" at a press conference Sunday afternoon.

Not only was Sweeney collected enough to physically respond to what police are calling an "assassination" attempt, but during radio traffic following the incident, Sweeney can be heard calling in to report that her partner has been killed, and attempting to direct other officers to the scene.

Now's not the time to put the audio up—nerves are still too raw, and the call is truly heartrendingly horrific—but it should be seen how quickly Sweeney (referred to in the tape by her patrol call sign ,3 George 13) and her fellow officers reacted to the shooting.

This is how it happened:


(0:00) Sweeney: Shots fired, 29th and Yesler!

(0:06) Dispatcher: Is there a unit calling radio?

(0:15) Officer 1: I believe she said I-5 north of yesler

(0:19) Operator: 3 george 13?

(0:22) Sweeney: [sobs]

(0:24) Operator: 3 George 13? I map George 13, I show her at 29 and E yesler way, if units could [surge?] that way

(0:37) Sweeney: Help. Shots fired [sobs]

(0:42) Sweeney: My partner’s dead.

(0:44) Dispatcher: I need units to 29 and East Yesler

(0:47) Officer 2: Edward 32’s on his way [Siren]

(1:00) Officer 1: 3 George en route

(1:08) Sweeney: Help me.

(1:13) Dispatcher: Help the officer 29 and E Yesler

(1:24) Sweeney: I need medical

(1:38) Officer 1: George 31 arriving

(2:01) Officer 1: George 33, we’ve got officer down. We need more, uh, we need fire here now.

(2:08) Dispatcher: Fire’s on the way.

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Classy
It's so sad and heartbreaking. I keep seeing uniforms around town buying flowers and I feel awful for them and their families and his family.
Great job knowing what's right and keeping your reporting classy Jonah.
Comment by Nay
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
Oy
Heartrending doesn't quite cover it... A terrible, despicable, and cowardly act.
Comment by David Miller
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Argument against posting the audio
Consider it like an airplane's cockpit audio (as recorded by the "black box" recorder). Edited transcripts are published but the original audio NEVER is.

Theory is that nothing should inhibit people in life and death situations from being perfectly frank. In the case of plane crashes, pilots' last words could prevent future crashes and save future lives.

I submit that the same arguments should apply here. I admit that it's a bit different, because the audio goes out over the airwaves and could be recorded (as CD-News does) but I'd like to think that we could be appropriately restrained.
Comment by Andrew Taylor
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Sable is a treasure to this community
There are news reporters and there are writers. Sable is a writer and a pro at her craft. When Connie Cameron died who wrote for the Medium News the only African American major media in Pacific Northwest, we lost our writer. Now as God does the gap is filled. Sable is a much different writer than Connie but like Connie writes to the edification of all people.

I think it correct not to broadcast the audio, and because she writes to facts over sensationalism, she usually makes good decisions and it is her call, she is not a reporter she is a writer. Thank you Sable and I expect like with Aaron Sullivan assassination, you will keep us updated.
Comment by Dawn
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
RE: Sable is a treasure to this community
I wrote comments thinking Sable Verity wrote this. Thus they might seem confusing.
Comment by dawn
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Wrong To Publish This
What good does putting this transcript out publicly do?
It doesn't help solve the murder of Ofc. Brenton. What happened was a tragedy for the whole community but it doesn't mean the whole community needs every detail made public.
This is capitalizing on tragedy to feed the public's morbid curiosity.
Comment by Frankie
4 months ago
( --3 votes)
RE: Wrong To Publish This
There are many reasons to publish the radio transcript ASAP after a critical incident of this nature. The most significant reason is the fact that the maniac that shot two police officers is still on the loose and an ongoing danger to the public and the police. Publishing the radio transcript may stimulate the memory of potential eye or ear witnesses that may not realize that they saw or heard details that may prove helpful to the investigation. For example; someone may have thought they heard shots fired several blocks away and possibly seen the suspect or suspect vehicle fleeing the scene but had not put the pieces together. They may not have realized that those were actually gun shots and not automobile backfires or fire crackers etc. They may have glanced at a clock or their watch as people often do when something happens or made a mental note. Then when they read the transcript, which contains the exact time of day, it can bring it all together for them. Because they will realize that those WERE gun shots for sure. The suspicious vehicle or person they saw was possibly a fleeing suspect and they should come forward with their information. This is speculation of course and just one example of why the information should be published. Anyone that shoots at two trained & armed police officers is significantly more dangerous to the civilian population then the average criminal. The average criminal would not normally consider uniformed police officers as potential victims and any and all information that may bring about the capture of this highly dangerous individual should be published without hestitation, unless to do so would cause details that investigators were intentionally holding back to compromise the ongoing investigation.
Comment by Caulfield Investigations
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
No wonder the Stranger fired you
Hey Jonah, getting a lot of page hits from this?

Making money?

You suck
Comment by Journalistic Greed
4 months ago
( --5 votes)
This was worth posting
We learned something about Officer Sweeney's character.

I hope she can recover from this and serve Seattle well. May Officer Brenton rest in peace.
Comment by Gomez
4 months ago
( +4 votes)
Thank you for posting
This brings tears to my eyes from just reading it, I hope to never been in her shoes but if i am hope to have her bravery.

I can understand some not wanting to her the audio, but as someone who wants to get into law enforcement i do want to hear it eventually. It can be a great learning experience and condition tool.
Comment by CR
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
Decent
Thank you for posting. It is more than enough.

My prayers for Officer Sweeney and both officers' families. I am so sorry this happened.

My mom and I were on a bus when radio calls went out about possible bus reroutes. I am afraid my first thought was probably gangbangers shooting at each other and my second was that the bus we were on would not be affected.

Outrageous does not even begin to cut it.
Comment by dfc
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Wait, what?
Jonah was fired from The Stranger?
Comment by wasdf
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
thank you Jonah
You've done a much better job than the other news sources. Thanks for the professional and thorough reporting job, Jonah.
Comment by PJ Fox
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Use the cell phone records
just an idea.. but almost everyone has a cell phone and they rarely turn them off.. Mine seems to know where I am as I travel around (the google map finds me) I am going to guess that whoever did it made a call either right before or after.

Perhaps they could use the cell phone records of local towers to see who was in the area right before or after the shooting?

This would be a huge huge privacy issue.. so perhaps they can't do it since sometimes the principal (privacy) is more important then any one person but I am guessing the person is on probation or has a history..
Comment by Neighbor
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
That is not what I heard.
I heard this on the radio live and the transcript may be incorrect at 0:37. What I heard her say in a single transmission was, "They shot my partner. My partner's dead." I also never heard a transmission I would transcribe as "(sob)" although something more like a gasp was transmitted around 0:22.
Comment by Heath Hunnicutt
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
What is the source of this transcript?
This transcript seems to be wrong in several places. What is the source of this transcript?
Comment by Heath Hunnicutt
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
RE: What is the source of this transcript?
The source of the transcript is an audio file sitting on my computer. I just checked it again, and what I have is correct.
Comment by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Violation of US Code
Well Jonah, because I despise that you posted this transcript, I just baited you into admitting you are in violation of U.S. Code Title 18, Part I, Chapter 119, Section 2511, 1.e.ii - 1.e.iv. You may thing that 2.g.ii.II forgives you, but make not of the difference between "intercept" and "disclose."

You and the P.I. are in violation of Federal law by publishing this transcript -- and for good reason. Suggest you pull it.

There are many reasons to be upset with what you have done here. Consider the transmission at 0:22. Who broadcast that? How do you know who? The answer is you do not know, you merely _suppose_ that transmission was from Sweeney. You don't know.

Worse, this is just a disgusting use of a brave officer's traumatic experience for your own gain.
Comment by Heath Hunnicutt
4 months ago
( --5 votes)
Everybody who is disgusted by this blog post
I notice that Seattle Children's Hospital is the only advertiser on this blog. I just called them and their PR office is not open yet but I'm sure if they get 3 phone calls on the subject, that will be too many for them.
Comment by Heath Hunnicutt
4 months ago
( --3 votes)
RE: Everybody who is disgusted by this blog post
Holier than thou. How quaint. Don't you get it? We're living in a post-privacy, post-shame world. Jonah and his ilk are just shiny, fat ticks on the stinking curr that is the society we live in.

We helped make it by allowing it to happen, so now we can either wallow in it like the rest of them or get lost. The larger population have no use for your pretty morals. They have their subscription to Us magazine and they don't want to hear your whinging.

Telling your complaints to someone like Jonah is worse than pointless. He'll feed off of it and get indignant in response. The extra traffic and comments will justify his position.
Comment by Grant Ed
4 months ago
( --2 votes)
RE: Everybody who is disgusted by this blog post
Shame on you, Heath. Why are you doing this?
Comment by Matt from Denver
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
RE: Everybody who is disgusted by this blog post
Oh, trolls. I missed you.
Comment by Jonah Spangenthal-Lee
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Wow
I'm tempted at first to say that the haters from the Stranger have come over, but this Heath Hunnicutt fellow, the one who gets all huffily outraged on behalf of the officers, seems more like a NIMBY Times letter-to-the-editor freak with a stick up his ass. I'm willing to bet, O outraged Hunnicutt, that Jonah got this transcript from the police because they want people to understand what's at stake here. But have fun with your doltish boycott and shameful, howling hissy fit.
Comment by Dub Polton
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
RE: Wow
HH, see above for that indignation I was talking about.
Comment by Ed Grant
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
For all the complainers: It's called journalism...
...and in the dying days of old print media, this is as good as crime reporting gets in our little city. Thank goodness JSL isn't taking his legal advice from a Microsoft engineer, Heath. After all, the fact he was able to source it means in all likelihood that someone important wants this information out there.

Posting a transcript like this matters. It informs an often all-too-slovenly populace. That information can have any number of beneficial results including inspiring public action that will eventually help solve this crime.

I have a neighbor I consider a friend going through Academy right now. Events like these make me worry for his safety as he goes through his training. An informed and vigilant populace is a good thing in times like these.

Finally, rather than capitalizing on her plight, I believe posting the transcript brings light to Ofcr Sweeney's bravery. Maybe the self appointed blog police around here might better spend their time reviewing algorithms and leave the journalism to the pro's.
Comment by David in Burien
4 months ago
( +5 votes)
RE: For all the complainers: It's called journalism...
Yes, that's why so many families will post videos of their loved ones brutal slayings on Youtube, to highlight the bravery of the survivors.

Oh wait, they don't do that?

Despite your heartfelt protestations, there's nothing remotely informative or vigilance inducing about this post. Vigilante inducing, possibly, vigilance inducing, not so much. This post is schlock, pure and simple. Maury Povich would be proud--or more accurate, jealous.
Comment by Grant Ed
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Get over yourself Heath
I sit here today with 6 hash marks on the lower left arm of my uniform. That's one hash for every five years in uniform, most of them with a Motorola on my belt. Heath, have you ever enforced a law in the dead of night? Or do you just wield them as threats, and faux examples of your smug self importance. Police radio calls are public records as uttered. It's good for the public to read, and yes, hear this, to embrace her bravery, to hear what it is we ask them to do every night. My only problem is that the dispatcher wasn't paying attention, something I have trained against my entire career. The messages are sent on public air at public expense, with the officers acting for, and by the grace and permission, of the public they serve. The courts have looked at this, had they found otherwise, scanners would be outlawed. I'd give you case law Heath but, unlike you, I won't be spending my day in a dirty bathrobe shuffling between the fridge and my PC thinking up new ways to crap on my fellow man. No, Heath, having put another shift behind me without incident, and with those in my charge safe and ready for a new day, I shall drop by my parish and light a candle for Officer's Brenton and Sweeney, then I'll go have a big breakfast, probably pancakes, and be thankful that after 30 years of dealing with people of your narrowed, self righteous vision, I haven't, like you become petty, and mean spirited, lighten up Heath, go outside and enjoy life, Officer Brenton gave you that right, paid for it with his life.
Comment by Eric Solbjor
4 months ago
( +5 votes)
RE: Get over yourself Heath
Eric, sorry you feel that way. In my view, Jonah is compromising the investigation and what's more, his transcript is wrong. Regarding the legality, most scanner owners are aware of the federal law. It expressly forbids disclosing what is heard. I agree with you on the value of the public monitoring police transmissions. Regarding the dead of the night, look me up in SPD RMS. Regarding the east radio operator -- I also heard the transmission noted at 0:00 and it was not a clear transmission, probably due to background noise.
Comment by Heath Hunnicutt
4 months ago
( --2 votes)
Grant Ed, you and Heath are wrong. Plain and simple.
No point in telling you why, since you've clearly decided that you're right.
Comment by Matt from Denver
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Grant Ed, you and Heath are wrong. Plain and simple.
Yes, and I've noticed so much flexibility in your own (or anyone's) position. It's a comment board on the internet. I'm sorry if you've confused it for the Unitarian coffee clatch.

Please, don't let me disturb you from enjoying your gore.
Comment by Grant Ed
4 months ago
( --2 votes)
RE: Grant Ed, you and Heath are wrong. Plain and simple.
Thanks, Grant Ed! Because that's EXACTLY why I read the transcript. You fool.
Comment by Matt from Denver
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
I'm glad to read this.
There's nothing inappropriate about the public wanting to know exactly how a horrible crime was committed in a normal neighborhood, 2 blocks from a school. The transcript adds to our understanding of the event. People who don't like it don't have to read it. Police work is public service -- their victories are celebrated publicly, their failings are examined with painful openness, and when a great tragedy like a death occurs on the job, it becomes a matter of public record. It is the nature of the job.
PS Off topic. I am a new reader to CHS since the shooting. Trolls are ruining news sites everywhere. Why not moderate? If someone has something thoughtful and well researched to add to the conversation, put it on. If not, block them. These back and forth personal attacks just ruin the experience for everyone. I've been moderating MMO game sites for more than a decade and this kind of wild west free for all just goes absolutely nowhere. Thanks.
Comment by SeattleAnnie
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
RE: I'm glad to read this.
You have a valid point, but I'll reply that my experience with those blogs is usually one of boredom. For example, would you have posted your insightful comment about the service this transcript provides if it weren't for the critics of that decision? Those critics likely would have been blocked. As it is, they're stimulating discussion, even if some of it is vapid or disrespectful (and I plead guilty to that charge too).
Comment by Matt from Denver
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Disrespect
Sorry, you are right Matt, my dirty bathrobe comment was probably over the top. I'll try to be kinder and gentler in the future. I guess Momma was right, I am a sour S.O.B.
Comment by Eric Solbjor
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
trolly hypocrisies
HH proves himself wrong with his own cite: read 2g, doofus:

2)
(g) It shall not be unlawful under this chapter or chapter 121 of this title for any person—
(i) to intercept or access an electronic communication made through an electronic communication system that is configured so that such electronic communication is readily accessible to the general public; [[ I'd say having the scanner traffic ONLINE is pretty readily accessible, don't you? ]]
(ii) to intercept any radio communication which is transmitted—
(I) by any station for the use of the general public, or that relates to ships, aircraft, vehicles, or persons in distress; [[note those last 3 words ]]
(II) by any governmental, law enforcement, civil defense, private land mobile, or public safety communications system, including police and fire, readily accessible to the general public;

Well, there you have it: if intercepting scanner traffic were illegal, 1,000's of fire and police spouses should be locked up /fined ASAP. And if Jonah exercising his 1st Amendment rights of press/speech bothers you, write your congressperson to abolish the 1st amendment. Er,.. Good luck with that.
Comment by Rev.Smith
4 months ago
( +4 votes)
Grow up
this goes for all. an officer was killed and all you guys can think of is your personal image grow up children this is real life
Comment by Dereck Alinus
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Can we disagree with civility?
I'm not sure labeling as "troll" anyone who disagrees is very productive. Those of us who have kids in school near the murder, live near the murder site, and also work with law enforcement, have very mixed feelings about the publishing of this transcript. As it sheds no light on who the murderers are, it seems published only to appeal to morbid curiosity. Having lived 4 blocks from the murder site my entire life and thus suffering endless amounts of crime, and working currently with law enforcement, I am very torn about the publishing of this transcript. We community members need to know what is going on around us, yet this particular piece seems geared only towards gawker appeal, so I'm torn. I'm sure many people feel the same way. Expressing those mixed feelings does not make one a "troll."
Comment by Del
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Can we disagree with civility?
Your last sentence is true; however, we don't just have people questioning this decision, they're also adapting a morally superior, holier than thou attitude, passing judgment on this blog and basically saying anyone interested in reading it is a morbid looky-loo, which simply isn't true. If anything, using this forum to stroke their own sense of righteousness is truly exploiting the memory of the slain office.

Maybe they're not trolls, exactly, but they aren't contributing anything to the discussion.
Comment by Matt from Denver
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: Can we disagree with civility?
I'd agree except the 'trolls' in question are accusing Jonah of breaking the law and making other false accusations intended to defame him and the blog.
Comment by Gomez
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
Everyone's trying to understand
The city lost a police officer, almost two officers. Everyone is feeling that loss, some a lot more than others, but most of the city I think really feels the loss. And the senseless nature of the attack is leaving people with a lot of questions, which is why reading information about what happened is helpful. There is nothing sensational about it, the officers in that car are the city's officers too. They live and work to be called on when we're having low points in our lives, and they don't deserve what happened. The city is going to be mourning for awhile and trying to understand some of what happened is a part of that.

Hopefully they catch the persons(s) that did this, soon, and I hope they are sane (enough for the court anyway) so they can get the penalty they deserve.

Thanks for keeping the community up on this, Jonah.
Comment by Helper Clerk
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
Please remember the dispatchers.
Please remember the dispatchers when you pray for the fallen officer and his partner. It's the "job" of public safety dispatchers to remain professional and level during a critical call; it's what they are trained to deal with. But to hear an officer desperately calling for help is more stress than most of us can fathom.

I applaud the dispatchers and call receivers for getting help to the officers as quickly as they did. And I thank them for always being ready for anything when we call 911.
Comment by Skye
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
The murder of Officer Brenton
This to me is no different that any crime against "innocence" whether it's a child or a woman or even an law enforcement officer that always has to be there for his or her public and give them the benifit of the doubt and not pull their firearm first. I'm very proud of the Washington people that stand together in this moment of need and for their mutual disgust for this crime and for this murderer, lets hope the police get him first! My heart goes out to both of these officers and their families and I pray for the resolve in their hearts but more for the justice that now has to prevail. SPD is one of the finest police units in the country and I have no doubt that they will finalize this case to it's end. The sadness is subsiding and the anger is now the motivation. Godspeed officers Brenton and Sweeney, let us all take for this a lesson so that others in the line of fire may benifit and go home safely to their wives, husbands and children...
Comment by SSSteve
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
scanner traffic is legal press; & makes a good investigative tool too
Keep up the good work, SPD. Likewise, Jonah & Seattlecrime.com.

Scanner traffic is available for anyone to listen to. The press are reporting the facts, reporting what not everyone was hearing at the time. By the logic of those who want censorship of the transcript, we'd be wrong to air (or watch) CNN showing the 9/11 attacks in replay, and only the eyewitnesses in NYC at the time would be allowed to see? Morbid or not, that's not how we define American liberty, my friend.

Arguably: Offc. Sweeney's call was just as admirable and sad as the police dept claimed. Thanks for the verification. And for leaving to print that which doesn't need to be in audio.
Emotionally: It's horrible. Tragic. Heartwrenching. But not illegal, not immoral, not unhelpful. T'was my point in calling "troll".

A second, important point: I hope these transcripts are ALSO horrible and heartwrenching to someone who knows who the murderer is (or saw the shooting, or saw a car with bullet holes, or heard someone bragging), and they will be moved by this to call in a clue/cough up some info. There's also that $40,000 reward incentive. And 200+ heavily armed women and men bearing down with an intent to perservere.

FYI, seems this may be a needed reminder: In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages'. [HH's US code cite was at least 3 of these]. And Del, a Concern Troll is another one we interweb geeks watch for.
Comment by Rev.Smith
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
RE: scanner traffic is legal press; & makes a good investigative tool too
Rev Smith: I work with officers, so am saddened that this transcript was published, as it seems to shed little light that could at all help the case, so thus seems only for gawker appeal. Conversely, I live in the neighborhood where the murder occured, have kids in school blocks away, etc. so want, like my neighbors, all the info possible about what happened. Thus, I'm of two minds or, as I said, torn about this issue. If that makes me a "concern troll," well then I think it's sad that a forum meant to be a place of communication has such secret-club type rules.
Comment by del
4 months ago
( +1 votes)
God Bless
God Bless you officer Sweeney, and God Bless officer Brenton's family and the entire Seattle police force. This is so terribly sad. I hope you find the @sshole/s.
Comment by Tricia Plumley
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Greed? Compromising law? how 'bout PUBLIC info & THANKS Jonah for the option
JournalisticGreed?
SeattleCrime.com does-not-equal that bad theatre that is MauryPovich skankery. If/When it does, I won't be loggin on - suggest you keep that same plan in mind.
You realize Jonah doesn't even pay his staff, right?
And, compared to the TV"News" vultures hanging out at the family's house in Marysville, Jonah's an altruistic saint. They're literally selling commercial time on public broadcast airwaves during their broadcasts...

You might not agree with posting the transcript of public employee's public-radio-traffic -anymore than school teachers like having their salaries posted online ( or sexual predators like having their pictures and addresses posted); but both are part of the deal with public/government jobs and public info.
There is no compromising of the case: it's emotionally raw - which actually helps the case.
Full open accountability is in our (you, me, officers, criminals) best interest, even if it itches sometimes.
Sweeney & the dispatchers performed above and beyond, that night: I'm glad to read that which the SPD itself has been referring to for days now.
I have no urge to listen to the audio of the call, and I have a handy way of making sure I don't have to: Fn+End on my laptop mutes the sound.
Comment by Rev.Smith
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Feelings
It seems to me that a few people here are just looking for a public place to spew their opinions about themselves and anyone with a contrary opinion. Kinda defeats the "reporting" aspect of the article and the information contained herein. Public information is just that and most laws are already written governing that. So?
Comment by plw
4 months ago
( 0 votes)
Murder Sucks
I'm not a cop and sometimes I get pretty pissed at police for some of the things I've experienced and read about, but so what if I get upset with what if heard about or experienced. It does'nt justify any violent action. There's good and bad in every organization, police too. And so here we have a man with a family ambushed and slain and that is so not right. I wish I had been there to help those cops. I own some good weapons and know how to use them. Cops are human too and this sucks, really pisses me off. Who the hell are they to take his life like that. My own saftey be damned, I wish I was there and maybe I could have kept it from happening or maybe not, but at least tried to do something to stop an evil thing from happening. All people need to step up when evil shows itself like that. Every decent person should be thinking the same thing. Yeah people will say easy to offer on a computer but if you were really there and getting shot at you would probly change your mind. Well, no I would'nt change my mind. I say it again, I wish I had been there. I'd be scared as hell and I sure don't want to take a round or die but somethings are sooo wrong that you got to get into it on the good guys side. I mean it sounds like the vermin just openened up on those cops in cold blood. How would you like that to happen to you. If it happend to me, I'd want anyhelp offered. I'd help a cop with my weapons anytime if they were underfire. Not cuz there cops but because there people too man. If it happens again and I'm around, I'll be in, on the cops side. If I die I die. Better than wasting away in a rest home. Man this is bad. I really feel bad for his family. I pray for them and pray that god sends the vermin responsible for this to burning hell.
Comment by Jay Spadoni
4 months ago
( +2 votes)
family consent?
Jonah, did you contact the families to see how they felt about you unnecessarily publicizing this transcript?

There's what's legal and there's what's right. Publicizing this transcript may be a legal thing to do--getting the families signoff would be the right thing to do.

There are public records and then there's publicizing records--they are not the same thing. You and your apologists don't seem to understand the distinction. Perhaps if it was your own public records--divorces, bankrupticies, arrests, foreclosures--that were being publicized for no apparent reason, then you would begin to understand.
Comment by Grant Ed
4 months ago
( --1 votes)
Principles of Democracy and Justice - - transparency and truthfulness
For our democracy to survive and 'prevail', we must be able and willing to see the good, the bad, and the ugly. We had radio reporters during World War II describing awful realities. During Vietnam television became the medium for describing this war. Kent State and other awful moments of the 60's and 70's were for us to experience. Coming on the anniversary of
Seattle's WTO debacle, we can remember how the cameras informed us.

To choose not to report does not do our democracy any favors.

Thanks to the Seattle Times, we have seen the video of 3 police officers "above and beyond the call the duty actions" (my opinion) taken against Daniel Saunders in the Georgetown precinct. We need to hear the tape of the shooting of the two police officers. Such details inform us and let us make our own judgments of right and wrong, good and bad.

Democracy is only as strong as we as individuals being informed and active in preserving the rights granted by our Founding Fathers and amended over the years as times change.
Comment by Paul Erwin
3 months ago
( 0 votes)
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